Comments for A blog for Finsbury Park http://finsburypark.wordpress.com Voice your views Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:21:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Martin Dinnegan Knife victim Martin ‘in wrong post code area’, court is told by Justice http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/martin-dinnegan-knife-victim-martin-%e2%80%98in-wrong-post-code-area%e2%80%99-court-is-told/#comment-1074 Justice Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:20:43 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=365#comment-1074 The fact is only one of the boys killed Martin. There was no evidence against the other boys. Two were clearly innocent and should never have been on trial. Only one defendant chased Martin. Another killed him. Martin was no angel. He was carrying a 9inch knife on him when he was killed, and had been arrested for having a knuckle-duster just a few months before. Justice has been done for Martin, and also the innocent boys in the dock that should never have been there! Postcodes had nothing to do with the case. Don't believe the nonsense that you hear. You clearly were not in the courtroom. The jury got it right. The fact is only one of the boys killed Martin. There was no evidence against the other boys. Two were clearly innocent and should never have been on trial. Only one defendant chased Martin. Another killed him. Martin was no angel. He was carrying a 9inch knife on him when he was killed, and had been arrested for having a knuckle-duster just a few months before. Justice has been done for Martin, and also the innocent boys in the dock that should never have been there! Postcodes had nothing to do with the case. Don’t believe the nonsense that you hear. You clearly were not in the courtroom. The jury got it right.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by DJ Cue http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-1055 DJ Cue Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:10:05 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-1055 I was another member of the audience left in utter disbelief at such amateur handling at the Rise stage. I've had plenty of time to cool down now - but it still really rankles. Staging events of that size absolutely requires an organised, professional approach. Having been professionally involved with several such, in my book there are no circumstances whatsoever (short of a fatality onstage or some other equally unforeseen catastrophe) when it is acceptable to 'cut off' an act mid-song by cutting power. It would be offensive enough (to both performer AND audience) in the case of some relatively minor artist - but to see one of Jimmy Cliff's stature treated this way on Sunday was truly inconceivable. Of course, the circumstances on Sunday were nothing like that. As far as I can see, notwithstanding the above responses from both sides, it was a case of sheer inexperience on the part of the Rise Stage's stage manager (I'm prepared to believe Ted's account above - response no. 7 - but that's no kind of excuse if you're the stage manager). Whatever led to the decision to pull the plug, it's still a colossal breach of professional protocol, and I too sincerely hope Jimmy Cliff and his people weren't deeply offended. A large number of his fans present - myself included - will have been aghast at such a show of disrespect. Although I'd otherwise enjoyed most of the afternoon at Rise, the incident left an awful taste in the mouth: if we needed yet another reminder that local government are progressively ruining public entertainment by over-regulating it, this was it. Needless to say, if the audience had paid for tickets, there would have been a riot. So why should it be admissable simply because it was a free concert? The attitude of both organisers and local authority are clearly more cynical and clueless than I dared fear. Personally, it has left me infinitely gloomier about the direction that public entertainment in this country seems heading for. A grave hurt has been done. Is anyone going to take responsibility for it? I was another member of the audience left in utter disbelief at such amateur handling at the Rise stage. I’ve had plenty of time to cool down now - but it still really rankles.

Staging events of that size absolutely requires an organised, professional approach. Having been professionally involved with several such, in my book there are no circumstances whatsoever (short of a fatality onstage or some other equally unforeseen catastrophe) when it is acceptable to ‘cut off’ an act mid-song by cutting power. It would be offensive enough (to both performer AND audience) in the case of some relatively minor artist - but to see one of Jimmy Cliff’s stature treated this way on Sunday was truly inconceivable.

Of course, the circumstances on Sunday were nothing like that.
As far as I can see, notwithstanding the above responses from both sides, it was a case of sheer inexperience on the part of the Rise Stage’s stage manager (I’m prepared to believe Ted’s account above - response no. 7 - but that’s no kind of excuse if you’re the stage manager). Whatever led to the decision to pull the plug, it’s still a colossal breach of professional protocol, and I too sincerely hope Jimmy Cliff and his people weren’t deeply offended. A large number of his fans present - myself included - will have been aghast at such a show of disrespect.

Although I’d otherwise enjoyed most of the afternoon at Rise, the incident left an awful taste in the mouth: if we needed yet another reminder that local government are progressively ruining public entertainment by over-regulating it, this was it.
Needless to say, if the audience had paid for tickets, there would have been a riot. So why should it be admissable simply because it was a free concert? The attitude of both organisers and local authority are clearly more cynical and clueless than I dared fear.

Personally, it has left me infinitely gloomier about the direction that public entertainment in this country seems heading for.

A grave hurt has been done.
Is anyone going to take responsibility for it?

]]> Comment on Murder victim dead in flat for up to three weeks by annonymous http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/murder-victim-dead-in-flat-for-up-to-three-weeks/#comment-1053 annonymous Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:27:39 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/murder-victim-dead-in-flat-for-up-to-three-weeks/#comment-1053 its terrible how such a innocent man is murdered im 11 and my nan was extremlly close to tony as a mother and to think someone so sick couLD DO SOMETHING SO HORIBLE TO A GENTLE GIANT WHEN THE PERSON WHO DID THIS IS FOUND WE HOPE THEY ROT IN THE BURNING GATES OF HELL BECAUSE I KNEW TONY AND ALL HE WANTED WAS TO HAVE A LAUGH LIKE A NORMAL MAN WOULD AND THE FAMILY IS A DESCRAISE TO HES MEMORY AND BECAUSE NOW HE HAS TO HAVE A LONLEY FUNURAL BUT WHOEVER DID SOMETHING SO SICK YOUR TIME WILL COME WHITCH ALL TONYS RESPECTERS WILL HOPE BE VERY SOON AND NOW THANKS TO THE MURDERS I HAVE NIGHTMARES AT THE AGE OF 11 AND WHEN YOU GO TO PRISON I HOPE YOU GET A GOOD IDING YOU ROTTEN PEACE OF NO GOOD DESCRAISE TO THE WORLD SKUMMM THATS OK YOU JUST MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE AND WHEN YOU GET UP THERE TONY WILL SHOW YOU HOW HE FEELS BUT I SHOULD IMAGINE HE WOULD FORGET AND FORGIVE BECAUSE THATS THE TONY EVERYONE KNEW GOD REST YOUR BLESSED LOVE WE WILL ALWAYS REMEBER YOU =]=] =[ COME Forward KILLER =[-[ IM ANGRY its terrible how such a innocent man is murdered im 11 and my nan was extremlly close to tony as a mother and to think someone so sick couLD DO SOMETHING SO HORIBLE TO A GENTLE GIANT

WHEN THE PERSON WHO DID THIS IS FOUND WE HOPE THEY ROT IN THE BURNING GATES OF HELL
BECAUSE I KNEW TONY AND ALL HE WANTED WAS TO HAVE A LAUGH LIKE A NORMAL MAN WOULD

AND THE FAMILY IS A DESCRAISE TO HES MEMORY AND BECAUSE NOW HE HAS TO HAVE A LONLEY FUNURAL BUT WHOEVER DID SOMETHING SO SICK YOUR TIME WILL COME WHITCH ALL TONYS RESPECTERS WILL HOPE BE VERY SOON

AND NOW THANKS TO THE MURDERS I HAVE NIGHTMARES AT THE AGE OF 11 AND WHEN YOU GO TO PRISON I HOPE YOU GET A GOOD IDING YOU ROTTEN PEACE OF NO GOOD DESCRAISE TO THE WORLD SKUMMM

THATS OK YOU JUST MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE AND WHEN YOU GET UP THERE TONY WILL SHOW YOU HOW HE FEELS BUT I SHOULD IMAGINE HE WOULD FORGET AND FORGIVE BECAUSE THATS THE TONY EVERYONE KNEW

GOD REST YOUR BLESSED LOVE WE WILL ALWAYS REMEBER YOU =]=] =[

COME Forward KILLER =[-[ IM ANGRY

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by George http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-1050 George Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:34:45 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-1050 I all agree with all those of you who are highlighting the total disrespectful nature and narrow mindedness of the organisers switching Jimmy off early. He was even getting to the end of the track! 5 more minutes would have been enough to let him wrap up and hear the appreciation from the crowd. He gave a majestic powerful performance (as he always does) and was left with a very luke warm ending from a confused crowd. Jimmy and band, from all of London, we're sorry for the stupidity of the authorities. Please come back and see us again soon. I all agree with all those of you who are highlighting the total disrespectful nature and narrow mindedness of the organisers switching Jimmy off early. He was even getting to the end of the track! 5 more minutes would have been enough to let him wrap up and hear the appreciation from the crowd. He gave a majestic powerful performance (as he always does) and was left with a very luke warm ending from a confused crowd. Jimmy and band, from all of London, we’re sorry for the stupidity of the authorities. Please come back and see us again soon.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Jambo http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-1045 Jambo Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:06:22 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-1045 It was a big let down by the organizers and council members involved not to put there necks on the line a little and keep the freedom festival spirit alive. We must in these times allow at least another half hour or so for such legendary performances. This is not a free festival if the headliner cannot finish there set. Other than this, there was a great vibe all day and I saw plenty of smiles and joy. Peace It was a big let down by the organizers and council members involved not to put there necks on the line a little and keep the freedom festival spirit alive. We must in these times allow at least another half hour or so for such legendary performances. This is not a free festival if the headliner cannot finish there set.

Other than this, there was a great vibe all day and I saw plenty of smiles and joy.

Peace

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Tom http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-1029 Tom Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:28:25 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-1029 In response to the above people who worked at Rise. Yes I understand that there is a job to be done but there is also something called common sense and common decency. No-one would have minded the show running over by ten or twenty minutes except some petty minded "Health and Safety officers" who seem to think that health and safety is a catch all phrase that confuses risk with hazard. What conceivable problems would have arisen if the show shot over the 8.30pm time limit? And do not tell me it's all to do with insurance liability. It all comes down to the same thing. I wonder if they did a risk assessment for what happens if people start getting violent owing to the sound getting cut off prematurely by some jobsworth? As for the Council Reps, why were they so concerned about shutting off the sound. I am fairly certain that all but the most churlish would not mind it running on a bit. In short. Get a life, so that the majority can enjoy themselves. In response to the above people who worked at Rise.
Yes I understand that there is a job to be done but there is also something called common sense and common decency. No-one would have minded the show running over by ten or twenty minutes except some petty minded “Health and Safety officers” who seem to think that health and safety is a catch all phrase that confuses risk with hazard. What conceivable problems would have arisen if the show shot over the 8.30pm time limit? And do not tell me it’s all to do with insurance liability. It all comes down to the same thing.

I wonder if they did a risk assessment for what happens if people start getting violent owing to the sound getting cut off prematurely by some jobsworth?

As for the Council Reps, why were they so concerned about shutting off the sound. I am fairly certain that all but the most churlish would not mind it running on a bit.

In short. Get a life, so that the majority can enjoy themselves.

]]> Comment on Martin Dinnegan Knife victim Martin ‘in wrong post code area’, court is told by charleen http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/martin-dinnegan-knife-victim-martin-%e2%80%98in-wrong-post-code-area%e2%80%99-court-is-told/#comment-1022 charleen Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:38:48 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=365#comment-1022 It is truely sad that this young boy had to die, it is not fair that so many young people are dying. You can't belive everything you hear. Only one person killed Martine, not four. People need to just accept that. Justice has been done , one person has been charged. Martine was not pinned to the ground by 4 people. His friends were with him, but not with him when he ran because he was scared. Everyone wants to say those boys were know for making trouble, but so was martin. He was making trouble when he looked at them in a funny way. Not saying he deserves what happened. It is truely sad that this young boy had to die, it is not fair that so many young people are dying. You can’t belive everything you hear. Only one person killed Martine, not four. People need to just accept that. Justice has been done , one person has been charged. Martine was not pinned to the ground by 4 people. His friends were with him, but not with him when he ran because he was scared. Everyone wants to say those boys were know for making trouble, but so was martin. He was making trouble when he looked at them in a funny way. Not saying he deserves what happened.

]]> Comment on Wilberforce Gardeners Autumn Plant Sale 7th October, 2007 by Vanessa Gillman http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/wilberforce-gardeners-autumn-plant-sale-7th-october-2007/#comment-1009 Vanessa Gillman Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:13:59 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/wilberforce-gardeners-autumn-plant-sale-7th-october-2007/#comment-1009 Hi, We have recently terraced our front garden and have approx. 15 bags of soil waiting for a home. Is anybody interested in this? Hi,

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]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Ted http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-998 Ted Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:21:08 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-998 A bit of info from the inside. I was working backstage at Rise in a lowly capacity. The problem was that the police, health and safety officers and Harringey council reps all insisted that the contract (which stipulated a switch off at 8.30) be stuck to - on fear of banning future events. Jimmy and his people were told this repeatedly in the hour before he was due on. Despite this, they simply didn't get their act together. They were standing around chatting and wandering off - even as they were due on stage. I think it was a major culture clash between the strict timetabling of a British event and the more relaxed Jamaican attitude. In the end, the people from Winfield Productions and Festival Republic who actually held the licence just weren't prepared to risk the shit of breaking the legal contract - hence the switch off. A bit of info from the inside. I was working backstage at Rise in a lowly capacity.

The problem was that the police, health and safety officers and Harringey council reps all insisted that the contract (which stipulated a switch off at 8.30) be stuck to - on fear of banning future events.

Jimmy and his people were told this repeatedly in the hour before he was due on. Despite this, they simply didn’t get their act together. They were standing around chatting and wandering off - even as they were due on stage. I think it was a major culture clash between the strict timetabling of a British event and the more relaxed Jamaican attitude.

In the end, the people from Winfield Productions and Festival Republic who actually held the licence just weren’t prepared to risk the shit of breaking the legal contract - hence the switch off.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by spinedwell http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-997 spinedwell Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:25:31 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-997 Hi everyone, I was stage manager for the 'African' stage at the Rise festival and would like to join in the debate by, of course, sharing with all music fans feeling bad that a greatly respected artist, Jimmy Cliff, had to be cut short during his set. Please remember, the organisers had deadlines set by environmental health, noise level limits etc. we had a curfew placed on us along with short 'change over' times, (15 mins between acts, on my stage!) Many artists have few or no crew, setting up mikes for a 7 piece African band with unusual instruments etc. it all adds up, cumulatively and can lead to an over run. I managed to run to time but had to fade one band out early on, I upset a few people by insisting we stuck to the schedule, (and bands don't seem to care they are compromising other acts by dragging out solos as the singer introduces the band at the end of a set... ) There is no sweet resolution other than us poor sods who are in charge being ruthless 'sergeant majors' on the day to ensure all acts get a fair shot at performance. I am sorry you all missed out on a fine act such as Jimmy, please support him and other artists by not downloading illegal free tracks, buy their albums and travel to see them again. I work as a backline technician and work with a few African artists... they need your support and fully appreciate sales adding to their ability to tour and produce fresh songs. Hi everyone, I was stage manager for the ‘African’ stage at the Rise festival and would like to join in the debate by, of course, sharing with all music fans feeling bad that a greatly respected artist, Jimmy Cliff, had to be cut short during his set.
Please remember, the organisers had deadlines set by environmental health, noise level limits etc. we had a curfew placed on us along with short ‘change over’ times, (15 mins between acts, on my stage!)
Many artists have few or no crew, setting up mikes for a 7 piece African band with unusual instruments etc. it all adds up, cumulatively and can lead to an over run. I managed to run to time but had to fade one band out early on, I upset a few people by insisting we stuck to the schedule, (and bands don’t seem to care they are compromising other acts by dragging out solos as the singer introduces the band at the end of a set… )
There is no sweet resolution other than us poor sods who are in charge being ruthless ’sergeant majors’ on the day to ensure all acts get a fair shot at performance. I am sorry you all missed out on a fine act such as Jimmy, please support him and other artists by not downloading illegal free tracks, buy their albums and travel to see them again. I work as a backline technician and work with a few African artists… they need your support and fully appreciate sales adding to their ability to tour and produce fresh songs.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Joe http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-994 Joe Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:24:09 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-994 I agree, Juliet. For a festival that used to be called 'Respect', I can't imagine a way to treat a headline artist, who greeted the crowd with so much warmth and heart, with less dignity than that afforded to Jimmy Cliff by the behind-the-scenes organisers.... The shutdown shouldn't obscure the fact that the partial show we were treated to was amazing - a full on, supercharged performance, with a great backing band of great musicians, brass in full effect and deep percussion. Jimmy's definitely one to catch if you can on tour, he's at the peak of his powers. What's the future for Rise? BoJo has already removed not only the explicit reference to anti-racism but also 2 stages from last year. The future of London's free festie scene looks in for a rough ride..... I agree, Juliet. For a festival that used to be called ‘Respect’, I can’t imagine a way to treat a headline artist, who greeted the crowd with so much warmth and heart, with less dignity than that afforded to Jimmy Cliff by the behind-the-scenes organisers….

The shutdown shouldn’t obscure the fact that the partial show we were treated to was amazing - a full on, supercharged performance, with a great backing band of great musicians, brass in full effect and deep percussion. Jimmy’s definitely one to catch if you can on tour, he’s at the peak of his powers.

What’s the future for Rise? BoJo has already removed not only the explicit reference to anti-racism but also 2 stages from last year. The future of London’s free festie scene looks in for a rough ride…..

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Juliet http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-989 Juliet Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:42:38 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-989 The Rise organisers showed a lack of understanding regarding safety by cutting Jimmy Cliff's set without allowing him to say good night to a very large audience. As someone who has worked for large events as a stage manager, I know how important it is both for crowd control and safety that people leave the site in good spirits. It was quite within the organiser’s capacity to explain and ensure Jimmy finished close to time. I am disappointment his set was cut midway through a song (his was the best performance of the day) and quite surprised a professional event would allow this to happen with a crowd that looked like over 20 thousand people watching. As well as highly unprofessional on a number of counts, this was a bad message to send to people about respecting one another. The Rise organisers showed a lack of understanding regarding safety by cutting Jimmy Cliff’s set without allowing him to say good night to a very large audience. As someone who has worked for large events as a stage manager, I know how important it is both for crowd control and safety that people leave the site in good spirits.

It was quite within the organiser’s capacity to explain and ensure Jimmy finished close to time. I am disappointment his set was cut midway through a song (his was the best performance of the day) and quite surprised a professional event would allow this to happen with a crowd that looked like over 20 thousand people watching. As well as highly unprofessional on a number of counts, this was a bad message to send to people about respecting one another.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by viper84 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-986 viper84 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:56:17 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-986 I agree, one of the reasons that i travelled the 300 miles was to see this man, who is one of the legends of the 20th century, perform live. Only to find that the ignoramouses who were obviously more interested in going home at the end of the festival then the fact that everyone was going to leave on a natural high. I was in the middle of the crowd and the mood switched as soon as the power was cut, (in general boos and chants of discontent being the lesser signs of discontentment) then to my sheer disbelief, the organisers had the f**king cheek to put a reggae record on, as if to 'compensate' for their pure bad judgement and belying the fact they had f**ked up, so again as said above i would also have the urge to apologise to this true legend. I agree, one of the reasons that i travelled the 300 miles was to see this man, who is one of the legends of the 20th century, perform live. Only to find that the ignoramouses who were obviously more interested in going home at the end of the festival then the fact that everyone was going to leave on a natural high. I was in the middle of the crowd and the mood switched as soon as the power was cut, (in general boos and chants of discontent being the lesser signs of discontentment) then to my sheer disbelief, the organisers had the f**king cheek to put a reggae record on, as if to ‘compensate’ for their pure bad judgement and belying the fact they had f**ked up, so again as said above i would also have the urge to apologise to this true legend.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Trueclarence http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-985 Trueclarence Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:39:53 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-985 I'll second that - what suit made that call? They should be ashamed of themselves. You couldn't let him get to the end of the song? For the sake of five minutes???!!! And yet the rubbish trance/techno was still blaring out of the fun fair. Sheer bureaucratic idiocy. You're lucky there wasn't a riot with people injured because of this senseless act. Otherwise a great day - I feel like apologising to Jimmy for such ignorant offence. I’ll second that - what suit made that call? They should be ashamed of themselves. You couldn’t let him get to the end of the song? For the sake of five minutes???!!! And yet the rubbish trance/techno was still blaring out of the fun fair. Sheer bureaucratic idiocy. You’re lucky there wasn’t a riot with people injured because of this senseless act. Otherwise a great day - I feel like apologising to Jimmy for such ignorant offence.

]]> Comment on Jimmy Cliff cut off at Rise Festival by Charlisays http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/jimmy-cliff-cut-off-at-rise-festival/#comment-984 Charlisays Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:27:48 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=388#comment-984 I cant believe the audacity and downright rudeness of the organisers of Rise cutting the sound of a LEGEND halfway through a song with no warning or explanation. I was close to tears as Jimmy and his band left the stage clearly bemused. They must have felt that the lacklustre response from the crowd was aimed at them but was in fact utter bewilderment. I wish they had stayed and we could have all kept singing and refused to let them end such a great festival in such a shabby way. Boris and Rise organisers you should be f*king ashamed of yourselves! I cant believe the audacity and downright rudeness of the organisers of Rise cutting the sound of a LEGEND halfway through a song with no warning or explanation. I was close to tears as Jimmy and his band left the stage clearly bemused. They must have felt that the lacklustre response from the crowd was aimed at them but was in fact utter bewilderment. I wish they had stayed and we could have all kept singing and refused to let them end such a great festival in such a shabby way. Boris and Rise organisers you should be f*king ashamed of yourselves!

]]> Comment on Art gallery goes down the pan by steve B robinson http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/art-gallery-goes-down-the-pan/#comment-966 steve B robinson Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:14 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=322#comment-966 bloody shame. somebody gets off their arse and does something that enriches the community and the grey suits with grey minds kill it. Oh so typical. Dont give up . Find somewhere else. Keep the spirit alive !!! bloody shame. somebody gets off their arse and does something that enriches the community and the grey suits with grey minds kill it. Oh so typical.

Dont give up . Find somewhere else. Keep the spirit alive !!!

]]> Comment on Gangs in N4 by lauren http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/gangs-in-n4/#comment-942 lauren Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:20:27 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=185#comment-942 the boys involved with killing martin 'b.c.y' 'BENNETT COURT YOUNGERZ' ringcross olders s.o.s mandem / soldiers of shakespeare they are all such pathetic names lol the boys involved with killing martin ‘b.c.y’ ‘BENNETT COURT YOUNGERZ’

ringcross olders

s.o.s mandem / soldiers of shakespeare

they are all such pathetic names lol

]]> Comment on Martin Dinnegan Knife victim Martin ‘in wrong post code area’, court is told by northldn http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/martin-dinnegan-knife-victim-martin-%e2%80%98in-wrong-post-code-area%e2%80%99-court-is-told/#comment-941 northldn Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:14:03 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=365#comment-941 the graffiti artist PAID to graffitti the set of eastenders has been JAILED FOR 2 YEARS yet martin dinnegans killers get away with little less than a slap on the wrist.....WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THAT? justice HAS NOT been served for martin dinnegan,only 1 of his 4 killers was charged with his murder.... all 4 chased and persued him,beat him to the ground,held him down and ultimately stabbed and killed him.... how on earth is this a justified sentence,his poor family have to suffer while 3 of his killers walk free able to kill another innocent young boy,its not right. www.youtube.com/nrthldn <<<<<tribute video for martin join my campaign http://crime.labourspace.com/view_campaign?CampaignId=43 please join,i need all the help i can get the graffiti artist PAID to graffitti the set of eastenders has been JAILED FOR 2 YEARS yet martin dinnegans killers get away with little less than a slap on the wrist…..WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THAT?

justice HAS NOT been served for martin dinnegan,only 1 of his 4 killers was charged with his murder….

all 4 chased and persued him,beat him to the ground,held him down and ultimately stabbed and killed him….

how on earth is this a justified sentence,his poor family have to suffer while 3 of his killers walk free able to kill another innocent young boy,its not right.

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]]> Comment on Harringay Online Short listed for Award - Please help by voting by HUgh http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/harringay-online-short-listed-for-award-please-help-by-voting/#comment-910 HUgh Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:30:48 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=381#comment-910 Thanks BfFP Thanks BfFP

]]> Comment on Martin Dinnegan Knife victim Martin ‘in wrong post code area’, court is told by northldn http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/martin-dinnegan-knife-victim-martin-%e2%80%98in-wrong-post-code-area%e2%80%99-court-is-told/#comment-885 northldn Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:16:50 +0000 http://finsburypark.wordpress.com/?p=365#comment-885 R.I.P MARTIN DARLING! I LOVE YOU! VERDICT SOONLETS HOPE THEY GET A LONG TIME R.I.P MARTIN DARLING! I LOVE YOU!
VERDICT SOONLETS HOPE THEY GET A LONG TIME

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